Searching Chemwatch

MariaC · Post by **MariaC** » 26 May 2009, 10:54

Hi can anyone help me with searching in chemwatch

I dont know if its just me but I find it very frustrating. For instance Im trying to find a MSDS and labels for 1M potassium nitrate, have tried typing in various conbinations and get up to 2000+ chemicals none of which is a 1M solution of potassium nitrate

:crazy:Its driving me

yours in anxious anticipation

Maria

noona · Post by **noona** » 26 May 2009, 11:23

Hi Maria
I have just done a search and your right no 1M Potassium Nitrate

When Richard comes to the conference at St Mary's I think we need a list of stuff to give him and maybe he can have it put on chemwatch for us

Noona

MariaC · Post by **MariaC** » 26 May 2009, 11:31

Thanks Noona so its not just me!I can find 0.5M and there may be no difference but I want to put the correct MSDS in my folder and correct labels on my bottle so not happy

vlclabbie · Post by **vlclabbie** » 03 Jun 2009, 09:25

Scuse my (large) ignorance.... but.... I thought it was ok if we didn't have the exact chemical concentration as long as we had the MSDS for the strongest concentration we have??????

Oh no... thinking of all the extra sheets that need printing off.... sigh...

vlclabbie · Post by **vlclabbie** » 04 Jun 2009, 15:26

Oh Phew! Was worried there for a moment!

sunray18 · Post by **sunray18** » 04 Jun 2009, 15:57

Gee for labels - I alter the concentration myself....
Chemwatch can sometimes be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrating!

buggman · Post by **buggman** » 14 Jul 2009, 12:41

If you email chemwatch - customer service @<URL removed, see forum rules> - and let them know what you are looking for, they can add it to your files. Sometimes it is necessary to use a code instead of name, we have to with nickel chloride. I have always had good turn around time in additions to our chemwatch data.

Post by **Robb** » 20 Jul 2009, 19:36

Hi All,

Just to rid of the mystery with 1M Potassium Nitrate there is not difference in Hazardous condition for the 0.5M and 1M Potassium Nitrate Solutions. This is due to the fact that the 1M solution has only a 50g difference to that of the 0.5M solution in the SI unit of 1 litre. So the MSDS will have no changes except the name of the concentration will differ.

Cheers,

Robb.....

The Search Engine · Post by **The Search Engine** » 13 Aug 2009, 14:29

Hello Labfriends,
I have been plodding away today with Chemwatch trying to find info as per the other posters.
I have just found the labels! But nothing else IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m trying to find.

What IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m really looking for is a list of chemicals in various concentrations that indicate the DET codes for users i.e. Green for 7-12, Orange for 11-12 etc. Can anyone help me please?

I use a Word document (I will try to attach it) that I got hold of five years ago in my first incarnation as a labbie, to create all my labels. Depending on the category I just print them out on the corresponding coloured paper. But the list is not exhaustive and IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m concerned about the descriptions IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m reading in Chemwatch that I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t really understand.

Does Chemwatch have a tutorial? Also noticed that the disposal for all the chemicals IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve read about today have been to bury them in the tip. How do I find out about liquids? At this point in my labbie evolution the only thing I know about chemical disposal (apart from Ã¢â‚¬Å“DONÃ¢â‚¬â„¢T YOU PUT THAT WASTE CHEMICAL IN YOUR CAR! MAKE THE TEACHER DO ITÃ¢â‚¬Â Thanks, again !

Is that only tiny amounts of copper sulfate solution can go down the sink with copious amounts of water. Gee Ã¢â‚¬â€œ I hope IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve got that one thing right.

Feel like IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve just been floundering today.

Any advice gladly received.

Cheers,
Patti

By the way I just entered Robb's quote
AD ASTRA PER ASPERA - SEMPER EXPLORO

into a Latin translator and it came back with

TO STAR VERY VIOLENT ALWAYS SCOUT

rae · Post by **rae** » 13 Aug 2009, 14:37

Hey search engine,

You really need to refer to the CSIS manual this will give you all the DET user codes for the chemicals we use. I don't know about anyone else but I really only use chemwatch for labels and MSDS which I put in a folder and they never get referred to again except by me!
The teachers will use the CSIS or just look at the label and the spot that I put on the bottle/container.

Hope this helps you stop floundering a little!!

Lorrae

The Search Engine · Post by **The Search Engine** » 13 Aug 2009, 14:44

thanks, Lorrae.
I will dig out the CSIS and see what I can find. Hoping its not in Appendix D which is missing from my folder.....

Patti

macca · Post by **macca** » 13 Aug 2009, 15:13

I don't know how you can work without appendix D that's my bible.

I refer to it all the time, "see you can't let Year 7's use that" if it's in black and white print, teacher's understand.

The Search Engine · Post by **The Search Engine** » 13 Aug 2009, 15:26

So Macca,
Where do I get one?

cheers
Search

lizzieb · Post by **lizzieb** » 13 Aug 2009, 23:29

Patti,

All DET schools were issued with the CSIS package some years back, and your SAM should also have a copy somewhere, I think. Do a search - I'm sure someone posted recently how to go about getting a copy.
Or ask your opposite number at another school to photocopy it for you.
The user codes and colours are listed.
Other appendices give lots of useful info - too much to list everything eg. waste bottles; transportation of chemicals; disposal: including how to dilute solutions/quantities that can be disposed via sewer, what goes to landfill, etc. etc.

JelJane · Post by **JelJane** » 14 Aug 2009, 07:23

Not sure whether this helps, but the NZ Chemwatch site has a downloadable tutorial.
http://www.chemie-tech.co.nz/Schools/schools.htm

Post by **Labbie** » 14 Aug 2009, 08:35

Hi Search engine, Perhaps you may be able to down load it from the CSIS site on the portal. I have done this in the past, the library has a much faster printer. so I did it on the library's one.

Post by **Labbie** » 14 Aug 2009, 08:37

Hi Search engine, Perhaps you can down load it from the CSIS site, it should be on your portal page. I used the Library's printer, it is much faster then the one in science. That may help you out.

sunray18 · Post by **sunray18** » 14 Aug 2009, 09:58

Chemwatch!!!!!

Post by **RosalieM** » 14 Aug 2009, 10:24

Chemwatch is a general, all-industries chemical information resource. It is not specific to schools, and especially not to NSW schools, so you won't find information about NSW DET allowable uses, recomended year levels etc anywhere on Chemwatch. CSIS, as far as I know, is the only place you will find this information. I suggest you try to get a new copy of appendix D from somewhere like the others suggested. Ask around the school, including the library. Surely there are spare copies stored somewhere in the DET but as I'm in a private school I wouldn't know where to begin to find out. Sorry you've spent so much time looking on Chemwatch for info that isn't there. Like Lorrae said, it's really only useful to us for MSDSs and labels, and the manifest if you have time to get it established. I started once... but it is so time consuming to set up. Maybe during one of the holidays I will get permission to do overtime to set it up.

Rosalie

estelle · Post by **estelle** » 14 Aug 2009, 11:50

Hi,
I printed off a manual that is fairly easy to follow about using the chemtalk program.
After you login etc. on the left hand side of the screen there is a document icon. Click on that and underneath there is a list that offers workbook;quickstart;manual etc. Click on the one you want and then open the file. I printed off the workbook and use that for a quick reference on how to use the program.
Hope that helps
Estelle

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