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Labbie
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Screened Methyl Orange

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Morning folks,

On reading and older email 1 June 06 from Robb. He said screened Methyl Orange indicator will give a more accurate detemination for the standardisation technique. Can some one please tell me what is the difference between Methyl Orange & Screened Methyl Orange. Is it filtered??


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Screened Methyl Orange

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The recipe I use is as follows:

Methyl orange - 1.0g
Indigo carmine - 2.5g

Dissolve powders in 1L distilled water. Filter before use.

pH range 2.9 (purple) - 4.6 (dark green).

The colour change is easier to see than Methyl orange but the shelf life isn't that long.
Generally worth the effort of having to make it up more frequently. :-)
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Screened Indicators (Scr. Methyl Orange)

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Hi Pommy,

Just to let you know that a screened Indicator is a particular indicator with the addition of a pH sensitive dyestuff.

This will improve the colour change of an indicator. With that addition the colour change is more sudden and prominent, making the indicator more accurate for pH determination.

The make up of screened Methyl Orange is done by using the dyestuff Xylene Cyanol FF, and to make this up the recipe is as follows:

Simply Dissolve,
1.0g of Methyl Orange;
1.4g of Xylene Cyanol FF;
In 500mL of 50% Ethanol (50% Ethanol 50% Water).


This will certainly get you out of trouble and explain a lot.

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Hi Robb,

Thanks so very much for the information on Screened Methyl Orange, I was surprised even the teachers could not help me.

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Scr. Methyl Orange

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Hi pommy,

Not a problem,

Glad to be of help.

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Hi folks,

Where can I purchase Xylene Cyanol FF, from? Q-stores do not stock this. Does any one know how long I can store this Screened Methyl Orange for?

Thank you every one with this one.

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Screened Methyl Orange

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Hi Pommy,

I will send you a private message with the supplier, keeping in mind that for 10g we are looking at around $68.00.

In normal titrimetric circumstances methyl Orange or even Universal Indicator is fine for use.

But if you are specific in carrying out Standardisation techniques or if you want to know the exact molarity of a solution then this will no doubt have to be the option.

Once you make this solution, it buffers itself through the Xylenes present. This means the reagent will be stable upon storage for years to come.

Cheers,

Robb.
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Post by Ocean Breeze »

Hi Sue... not surprising that the teachers cant help you. They rely on their technician(you!) for the technical stuff. Their area is teaching.
Thats why its great a(nd vital) to have resources and networks like this! :-)
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