GHS Labeling
-
- Posts: 29
- Joined: 20 Oct 2015, 09:05
- Job Title: Lab tech
- School: Clare High School
- Suburb: Clare
- State/Location: SA
GHS Labeling
Hi guys,
Like many others I was unaware of the GHS labelling compliance stuff. I work 16 hours a week in a high school of about 500 students. So if I am printing my labels off of Chemwatch for things like dropper bottles and it doesn't have a pictogram that makes it non-compliant? Sorry for the lack of knowledge no one in my school seems to know a thing about it
Like many others I was unaware of the GHS labelling compliance stuff. I work 16 hours a week in a high school of about 500 students. So if I am printing my labels off of Chemwatch for things like dropper bottles and it doesn't have a pictogram that makes it non-compliant? Sorry for the lack of knowledge no one in my school seems to know a thing about it
- Labbie
- Posts: 3243
- Joined: 28 Nov 2006, 10:00
- Job Title: Retired
- Suburb: At Home
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
Droppers bottle are so much smaller, that the chemwatch co, do not see the need to pictogram's, it really does depend on the strength of the solution.
Regards Labbie
Lab Manager/Lab Tech, mind reading etc etc
Now retired
Lab Manager/Lab Tech, mind reading etc etc
Now retired
- rae
- Posts: 1045
- Joined: 31 May 2006, 10:00
- School: Oxley College
- Suburb: Burradoo
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
Chemwatch does use the pictograms on the labels for solutions in dropper bottles that need it.
-
- Posts: 1496
- Joined: 12 Mar 2013, 08:10
- Job Title: Labbie
- School: Wollondilly Anglican College
- Suburb: Tahmoor
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
Rae is right. Seems like they do include the pictogram where they think it is needed - it's all the other information they try to cram on that is the problem. Make sure you are selecting the GHS compliant label on Chemwatch, though.
-
- Posts: 829
- Joined: 15 Dec 2015, 10:49
- Job Title: Lab Technician
- School: FCAC
- State/Location: QLD
Re: GHS Labeling
Jennag , I feel your frustration and it is why I am leaving Dropper bottles to last .....kind of hoping there will be a last minute moment of reality where WHS and the DoE actually get their S..t together and realize that we can't realistically produce a 25ml dropper bottle that is WHS compliant ......Oh and get Chemwatch on board too , so we can print the bloody labels ......Or....some other alternative that will let us get on with our job .
OK regarding Chemwatch label making . The default labels that Chemwatch generate are not the be all and end all .
"DGen label maker" on Chemwatch is well worth playing with . You can customize a label yourself . You can make it as big or small as you want . you can make multiple of them if you want ( rows and columns ) . You can include or exclude whatever you like .I have made several User defined Labels ...that's what I now use , as I found none of the Chemwatch ones workd for me
OK regarding Chemwatch label making . The default labels that Chemwatch generate are not the be all and end all .
"DGen label maker" on Chemwatch is well worth playing with . You can customize a label yourself . You can make it as big or small as you want . you can make multiple of them if you want ( rows and columns ) . You can include or exclude whatever you like .I have made several User defined Labels ...that's what I now use , as I found none of the Chemwatch ones workd for me
Re: GHS Labeling
Oh dear - please do not leave labeling until last! We have nearly 3,000 dropper bottles here and we made it a project to wash them refill them and relabel them with GHS labels - it took us weeks! even to relabel bottles.. think about it .
Say you have a tray of 16 dropper bottles work out the time it is going to take you to:
remove old label
design and print new label
put dot on it
stick new label on
IF it took only 1 minute per bottle then there goes 16 minutes per tray,
BUT it is going to take a lot longer than that... mmm 5 mins per bottle = 80 minutes.....
Say you have a tray of 16 dropper bottles work out the time it is going to take you to:
remove old label
design and print new label
put dot on it
stick new label on
IF it took only 1 minute per bottle then there goes 16 minutes per tray,
BUT it is going to take a lot longer than that... mmm 5 mins per bottle = 80 minutes.....
- Labbie
- Posts: 3243
- Joined: 28 Nov 2006, 10:00
- Job Title: Retired
- Suburb: At Home
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
The naughty students that had lunch time detention , had clean empty dropper bottles, they had to cut, the labels and put the dots on, put it on the empty dropper bottle. All we had to do , was refill them. And wash another lot ready for next time. Took us ages but it did help.
Regards Labbie
Lab Manager/Lab Tech, mind reading etc etc
Now retired
Lab Manager/Lab Tech, mind reading etc etc
Now retired
- Xenon
- Posts: 264
- Joined: 09 Jun 2006, 10:00
- Job Title: Rocket Scientist
- School: Arndell Anglican College
- Suburb: Oakville
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
I heard RiskAssess are working on a GHS labelling system; they hope to have ready by mid-year.
Xe, SD, KOPR
Re: GHS Labeling
Having been to the recent safety course, Phillip Crisp's advice is that any chemical you have "decanted or transferred", including reagent bottles and droppers, has to have at minimum 1. the name, 2. a signal word if applicable (ie DANGER or WARNING), and 3. hazard statements or at the least hazard pictogram(s). So you can get away with dropper bottles that have only the name, signal word, and a pictogram sticker. But better to have more information if you can fit it on larger bottles.
He also said that Chemwatch's labels are not compliant with guidelines for font size, their fonts are often too small (note this is not law but a guideline). They try to cram everything on to small labels but this is not necessary and can indeed get in the way.
He also said that Chemwatch's labels are not compliant with guidelines for font size, their fonts are often too small (note this is not law but a guideline). They try to cram everything on to small labels but this is not necessary and can indeed get in the way.
Re: GHS Labeling
Chemwatch labels - if the right hand side has too much information on it, then I print that part up separately and put it on the BACK of the dropper bottle, leaving the front label clearer with larger font.
- MissKat
- Posts: 86
- Joined: 24 Apr 2015, 11:41
- Job Title: Science Technician
- School: Cranbrook School
- Suburb: Bellevue Hill
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
You can also edit the Chemwatch labels to have a limit of statement sentences if you have labels with heaps of lines.
I remember at one Chemwatch 'training day', the speaker said you can have simple label on the droppers and then on the dropper tray, have the label with the complete information on it. I'm not sure if it's still ok to do this....??
I remember at one Chemwatch 'training day', the speaker said you can have simple label on the droppers and then on the dropper tray, have the label with the complete information on it. I'm not sure if it's still ok to do this....??
Re: GHS Labeling
I just thought I would do one chemical today to get started on the GHS labelling.
Logged into chemwatch and got 'sodium hydroxide', and the labels are not the GHS ones. They are the old system ones. The pictogram is the old one.
So I checked copper sulfate, knowing that the pictogram should be the dying fish one, but its just the black and white striped Misc one.
Help?
Am I searching in the wrong place?
Logged into chemwatch and got 'sodium hydroxide', and the labels are not the GHS ones. They are the old system ones. The pictogram is the old one.
So I checked copper sulfate, knowing that the pictogram should be the dying fish one, but its just the black and white striped Misc one.
Help?
Am I searching in the wrong place?
Re: GHS Labeling
yea i am a goose, found it - all good.
I expect this behaviour of my brain on a monday - or friday LOL
I expect this behaviour of my brain on a monday - or friday LOL
Re: GHS Labeling
happy you figured it out!
now you can work on D-Gen, so you can make your own size labels with the info you would like/need.
now you can work on D-Gen, so you can make your own size labels with the info you would like/need.
Re: GHS Labeling
maybe next week...LOL
I think my labels would say
"dont drink it, sniff it or put it on your skin"
I think my labels would say
"dont drink it, sniff it or put it on your skin"
Re: GHS Labeling
You decide what info you want on your label and chemwatch imports it off the SDS for you.
you dont have to type the info yourself.
I hope you understand.
you dont have to type the info yourself.
I hope you understand.
Re: GHS Labeling
Riskassess labels are out - YAY - happy dance
Re: GHS Labeling
Hip, hip hooray!!
- ELIZABETH
- Posts: 233
- Joined: 02 Jun 2006, 10:00
- School: O'Connor Catholic College
- Suburb: Armidale
- State/Location: NSW
Re: GHS Labeling
See you later Chemwatch!!!!