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Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 09:31
by amandag
Hello,
Magnesium powder is required for a Yr 12 Chemistry experiment, when putting this on Riskassess, it would not allow me to proceed. What is it rated in the NSW CSIS book ? Please. It is for the
Enthalpy changes in chemical reactions, Heinmann book 2.

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 09:35
by lurra
In CSIC it is teachers use only so a red dot

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 09:39
by dime
Hi
In the CSIS book it is rated for Teacher Only use. I don't have any of the chemical as we don't use it. Cheers

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 10:46
by RosalieM
I have never had it requested. I would be checking if the ribbon can be used instead.

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 11:07
by nickyw
If we need to use magnesium powder I just cut up the ribbon really really small. No complaints so far in fact it was the chem teachers idea.

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 13:38
by Judy R
I would recommend the magnesium ribbon as metal powders are very risky ie can explode

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 23 Aug 2022, 10:12
by bigmack
Just discovered this . Needless to say I'm a bit nervous dealing with it . obviously it has slowly absorbed moisture as our Chem store is cold and damp and has expanded and cracked the jar . There is now a split about 1-2mm wide that is exposing more air and moisture .
I'm going to keep a small amount as we use maybe a gram a year and dispose of the rest .
according to risk assess I can react up to 100gm with a dilute HCl and dispose of down drain with lots of water . Should be gone in three days . Quicker than getting a disposal mob out .
Magnesium Powder.jpg
Cracked Jar.jpg
See the Date on the container 1980 .42 years old :-o
Just a suggestion that anyone that still has this , could experience a similar problem .

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 23 Aug 2022, 13:38
by Labbie
WOW Bigmack, the things you so find.

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 23 Aug 2022, 14:42
by bigmack
Labbie wrote: 23 Aug 2022, 13:38 WOW Bigmack, the things you so find.
Yup :crazy: ....this is what happens when you inherit someone's job that liked to keep everything :whistling2:

So the I discovered the practicalities of disposing of 100gms of this powder . Firstly , its this much .
100gm Magnesium Powder.jpg
I started with about 300mls of 2M HCl and added about a teaspoon to see what would happen . [-o<
It fizzes and foams up about a few cm and the beaker does get warm . So I setup a few beakers and just kept adding powder bit by bit to each .
spatular full.jpg
Hubble bubble.jpg
The reaction takes longer and longer and eventually the beakers start to go grey looking as the powder runs out of acid .
need more acid.jpg
At this point I just added a splash of some older jars of 5,6,8M HCl we had in the storeroom until eventually I had reacted all the Powder .
So now I have about 5 litres of Magnesium Chloride to pour down the drain with lots and lots of water .
ready for disposal.jpg
Definitely a lot more bother than I thought , but a lot cheaper and quicker than getting it removed .
And much to my relief , it did not spontaneously combust :thumbup:

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 23 Aug 2022, 15:22
by Labbie
Well done you, it's the right thing to do.

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 25 Aug 2022, 09:42
by melsid
Well done bigmack.

When I started here I had a similar problem - lots of waste in the storeroom and nothing in the budget to pay for disposal. So I did my research and bit by bit disposed of what I could. By the time I was done, I could afford to pay a contractor to dispose of what was left.

My biggest problem was a full Winchester of sulfuric acid that had turned black!

Re: Magnesium powder for yr 12 Chemistry: Riskasses

Posted: 31 Aug 2022, 13:09
by mtg
It becomes less explosive as it ages and absorbs moisture. I bet if I got rid of it a teacher would ask for it next week.